1Interviews with Thelma Gruber Gold and Marsha Gold Allen (over many years 1970's-2000's), Everett is Thelma's husband and Marsha's Father.
2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, GedCom downloaded and brought to Marsha Allen's home., 2 Jan 1996, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
3US Treasury Dept, Social Security Application for Everett Van Gold, #136-07-7307, 28 Nov 1936, 2000 - copy at Marsha Allen's home.
"Everett Van Gold - residence: 8 Barrow Street, New York City, New York; present employer: Hahne & Co. 609 Broad St., Newark, N.J.; age 26; born Sept 6, 1910 in Salt Lake City, Utah; parents Cyrus Wm. Gold and Annie Peck (deceased); male, white; dated 28 Nov 1936; signed Everett Van Gold."4Personal knowledge of Marsha Gold Allen.
"My parents were in a car accident about noon on March 7, 1996, in Phoenix. Dad was taken to Scottsdale Memorial Hospital. My brother Bill was there first, and then me. Our sisters came as soon as they could get plane flights. Mother had facial injuries that required hospitalization and she was in shock. Daddy had massive internal and head injuries and he lived for 36 hours so all his family could be together before he died. Mother had her surgery two days later and his funeral was a week after his death."
11920 United States Federal Census, FHL #1821,551, E.D.#62, sheet 11, page 2353, 4 Feb 1920, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
Elk Twp, Clarion, PA.
"Thelma L.: dau, age 14, attending school, born in PA, both parents born in PA. Living with parents John and Minnie Gruber, brothers Paul, Gerald, and Aunt Myrtle Black."2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
3Clarion Democrat Newspaper, Obituary of Gerald V. Gruber, Copy from the Clarion County Historical Society to Marsha Allen on Aug 16, 2000, 8 Jul 1975.
"Gerald V. Gruber ... Surviving are three sons, ... one sister, Mrs. E. V. Gold of Phoenix, Ariz., and one brother, J. Paul Gruber of RD Shippenville. ..."4Interviews with Thelma Gruber Gold and Marsha Gold Allen (over many years 1970's-2000's).
This is about herself, and Marsha is her daughter.5GEDCOM File : Allen, Owen (ggson of Cyrus William Gold) file dated 10 Feb 2002.
!CENSUS: 1920 Elk Twp., Clarion, Pa.; film 1821551; 4 Feb 1920; ED 62,
sheet 11, page 2353; age 14, attending school, born in Pa. Thelma Gruber was married in Panama on 3 Sep 1938. She and Everett traveled to New York City and met with members of the church there. She was baptised in New York City on Sep 12, 1938. They then traveled to Pennsylvania to meet the Grubers and then to Utah to meet the Golds. Thelma was the first girl in their township to go to their High School. To go to High School, you had to pass a County exam. The teacher would say if
you passed or not. Thelma was told after her 8th grade passing of the test, that the teachers
could have passed her a year before, but the teacher thought it would not have been right. Their grade school had one teacher with about 30 students. Groups would be 7-8 grades, 5-6 grades, etc. The students would go to the front of the room, and sit on a bench to be in front of the teacher and recite to her. Then go back to their seats, and another group would come up to the front. Thelma says she learned a lot by listening to the older students recite their lessons. TEMPLE ORDINANCES: Sealing of Thelma to her parents; Arizona Temple, File no. 37060; 20 April 1973; with Everett V. Gold as proxy for her father, J.W.M. Gruber and Marsha J. Gold Allen as proxy for her mother, Minnie L. Black; sealer was Egbert J. Brown; witnesses were Billy G. Young and Kelvin W. Gold. BIOGRAPHY: Thelma attended Chestnut Grove School in Elk Township. Her grade school had one teacher with about 30 students. Groups would be 1-2 grade, 3-4 grade, 56 grade, 7-8 grade. The students would go to the front of the room and sit on a bench to be in front of the teacher and recite to her. Then they'd go back to their seats. Thelma said she learned a lot by listening to the older students recite their lessons.
In 1913, Grandmother Martha Jane Black died, and Thelma's mother, Minnie and her sister Myrtle, inherited the Homestead home. Thelma's family moved there, and Aunt Myrtle began living with them.
Thelma was the first girl in their township to go to their High School. To go to High School, you had to pass a County exam. The teacher would say if you passed or not.
After high school graduation, she was home for 2 school years, then took Nurses Training at West Penn Hospital in Pittsburgh, PA. During those years, both brothers married. She graduated from the three year program in 1928.
Thelma did Private Duty Nursing for 50 cents an hour for twelve hour shifts, sometimes for patients in hospitals and sometimes at their homes. During the Depression, you didn't dare complain about a job - at least it was a job. She says that many nurses were working for room and board only.
Then she began doing Public Health Nursing in Pittsburgh, while waiting to hear about her application to work in Panama Canal Zone. In July 1931, she sailed on a boat for Panama. She worked mostly at Gorgas Hospital and learned "how to discipline a child with love." Returning from vacation at home, and on the boat Thelma met Everett Gold in Sept 1937. They were married Sept 3, 1938 in Panama, and she retired from nursing.
Thelma and Everett lived 6 years in Panama, 9 years in Salt Lake City, Utah, and then in Phoenix, Arizona. They have raised a family of six fine children. They have served in the church unselfishly. Thelma has supported her husband in all aspects of his life. He died March 10, 1996. She continues to live alone and loves her flowers and her family. At this writing she is 92 years old and pretty healthy and definitely independent! !From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.6Orphans Court , Clarion Co, Pennsylvania, Clarion County Birth Records, Book 3, page 75, #30, 6 Dec 1905, Clarion County Court House, June 1977 research by Thelma Gold and daughters.
"Leba Gruber - female - white - father/J.W.Gruber - mother/Minnie - residence/Elk Twp, - father's occupation/farmer - date of birth/ 8 Aug 1905 - place of birth/Elk Twp. - date recorded/6 Dec 1905."
Obviously the family decided not to call her Leba, she's THELMA LUCILLE!.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R), Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
3The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R), Film #: 458482.
4The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R).
Source says "Middletown Springs, Rutland, Vermont".
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R), Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R), Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
2Comments from LauraMaery Post (paf@writerspost.com).
Contact info: 25629 129 Ave SE, Kent, WA 98030.
Source lists the puzzling location of "Salem, Washington, USA, New York, USA".
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
2Comments from LauraMaery Post (paf@writerspost.com).
Contact info: 25629 129 Ave SE, Kent, WA 98030.
Source lists the puzzling location of "Salem, Washington, USA, New York, USA".
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
This individual is also listed under AFN GBLT-TR.2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
For this individual, this source lists a second AF#, 1JST-883.2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
This individual is variously listed as both the brother and the father of Hannah Throckmartin (1 of 3), AF#8WK3-8N.3The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
4The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
William (AF#1JST-883) is listed with a birthdate of 1544, and a birthplace of "Wilmington, Kent, England" William (AF#: FBDM-VG) is listed with birthdate "Abt 1579," and a place of "Tortworth, Gloucestershire, England.".5Comments from LauraMaery Post (paf@writerspost.com).
Contact info: 25629 129 Ave SE, Kent, WA 98030.
This marrage occurs 11 years before the birth of the husband, and 18 years before the birth of the wife. --lmg.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
This source lists a second AF# for this individual: 1JST-899.2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
3The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
This source lists Cecilia (AF#83VM-DT) with birth date of 1586 in Clearwell, Newland, Gloucestershire, England. It also lists Cecilia (AF#1JST-899) with birthdate of 1548 in Clearwell, Newland, Gloucestershire, England.4Comments from LauraMaery Post (paf@writerspost.com).
Contact info: 25629 129 Ave SE, Kent, WA 98030.
This marrage occurs 11 years before the birth of the husband, and 18 years before the birth of the wife. --lmg.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
Hannah (Throckmartin) (Throckmortin) Throckmorton (3 of 3)
1The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
This individual cannot be the child of this marriage. The mother would have been nearly 200 years old at her birth. -- lmg.2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).